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Old Oct 29, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37   #321
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I can't believe the mods aren't doing anything...this is really getting outa hand.

You all got your own opinions and each of you are right and wrong. If this is such a low grade of PvP like you're all talking about there is no use in arguing over anything...
What, in any POSSIBLE way, is Dark wrong? Please. Tell me. I'd love for someone to clearly explain how he is wrong. Dark is CLEARLY explaining why bhavv's statement of, "CB consists of ONLY pressure and gank." Is wrong. Frankly, bhavv is only hurting himself by pigeon-holing his strategy by saying, "Nope, I shouldn't call severely weakened targets because we should be focusing on out-pressuring the enemy."

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To be honest, I think ritualists are better healers, although damage input isn't as good as monks, but what monks lack in healing they make up for in damage input.
No no no, quit playing the Monk wrong. It's not meant to be a damage class in CB. Quit spamming your signets on recharge on a target. Use Bane Signet to block ~200 damage from an Assassin's Blades of Steel. Or when trying to flee crumbling battle, use Bane Signet to stop a Bull's strike or crippling slash from landing. Use Signet of Judgement to interrupt long casting skills like the ~200 damage Shatterstone skill. Quit being a failbot with the monk.

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The class that is seriously shafted is the assassin. Every other class can shut them down quickly without much effort and when it comes to sin vs sin the one who presses 1-2-3-4 fast enough wins.
Or just that you suck at it. Ever thought about trying to rupt his Black Spider Strike with your Iron palm so that he doesn't get his BoS off? Letting him knock you down with his Iron Palm chain first. Obviously not since you don't even think about it. The most capable skill you can provide to a team is to mindlessly press 1-5. Good job, you fail at the Assassin in CB.

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Now to actually say how I have found CB...
Necro / Para is very poor in this format.. there are simply better builds.
Rit is better than Monk on all levels, having both in your team is win!
Mesmer is good, but not against everything.
Really? The best condition removal in the game should be considered bad? The fact that they can turn those exact same conditions back onto a their foes? That's considered bad? Assume a 2v2 battle between an Azn and necromancer against a Warrior and an Elementalist, two classes that everyone likes to consider far superior than others. Elementalist will try to blind the Azn but with no luck. In fact, this blindage will be reversed back onto the warrior. Unfortunately the Necromancer is weak against casters but the Azn can take care of that by simply attacking the Elementalist first, which is easy to do since the necromancer's hexes last a hell-of-a lot longer than Hidden Caltrops.

You think partywide non-removable anti-pressure is considered bad? The fact that a paragon is what you want to have when things start to crumble and your team needs to fallback. Oh wait! He's got the skill, fallback! Geez, a speed boost for everyone in order to get away? Awesome! With the same logic of the battle cry shrine, with a speed boost, a person can choose when they want to enter battle; the same can be said about snares too.

Mesmer is solid no matter who it is fighting if a person plays it right. The only drawback of the Mesmer that I see is it has no snare.

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Old Oct 30, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58   #322
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Or just that you suck at it. Ever thought about trying to rupt his Black Spider Strike with your Iron palm so that he doesn't get his BoS off? Letting him knock you down with his Iron Palm chain first. Obviously not since you don't even think about it. The most capable skill you can provide to a team is to mindlessly press 1-5. Good job, you fail at the Assassin in CB.

Well, someone is living up to their name.... Anet just choose bad skill set for the sin. Every other class has some sort of non-req kd, except Rit and they can make it impossible to hit them. I don't press 1-5 mindlessly, but thanks for making an ass of yourself.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26   #323
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Nobody is on vent, no one can spike.
The last time I checked, there is no synchronisation and calling through vent in CB.
You cant call 321 spike in Costume Brawl. Wrong game, wrong place, wrong thread, wrong logic, just wrong, therefore by your logic right here of what a spike is....
Spikes don't have to be 321 to be a spike.

AND THERE IS SYNCING IN CB. Those syncers CAN COMMUNICATE through vent. If you haven't faced any I don't know what to say to you.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #324
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Well, someone is living up to their name.... Anet just choose bad skill set for the sin. Every other class has some sort of non-req kd, except Rit and they can make it impossible to hit them.
Are you saying that the ~200 damage from just the Black Spider Strike - Twisting Fangs combo is crap in CB? If you are, you have no idea what you're talking about and you need to quit QQ'ing.

Quit sucking and interrupt their Weapon of warding or attack a DIFFERENT target than the one that's protted. Quit spamming your attack skills and know that a prot is coming. Take advantage of it. Quit QQ'ing over your poor skill level and learn how to play the game.

Oh but how about the elementalist? all they have to do is blind you. Interrupt it! Tele to them when they use their Glyph of immolation and interrupt the oncoming steam skill about to be activated. Then finish them off with your combo. More QQ'ing solved by simple presence of skill.

How about the Ranger? All they have to do is cripple me and interrupt my attack skills to shut me down.

A: Stop mindlessly running to Rangers when they use their millie shot. Press your cancel button before the shot hits and now viola! You're not crippled!

B: Your hex spell removes their stance. Don't go rambo on them and hit your hex then 1-5. Instead you should pressure them with auto attacks then when their stance comes up, activate your hex. There goes the snared, soon-to-be dead ranger.

C: Quit spamming your attack skills against rangers. KNOW that there will be interrupts coming and spread out your attack skills in order to deal with it. It's not that hard. After you snare, hit them with a BSS - TF combo, scatter the hits, to start the pressure. Then when they need to activate Trolls or Antidote Sig, hit them with your Iron palm Blades of Steel combo. It's not THAT hard if you just use your head.

I could go on and on. Learn how to play with the skills you have instead of crying about it. You'll get more crap done.

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I don't press 1-5 mindlessly, but thanks for making an ass of yourself.
You obviously do.

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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #325
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wow, the number of idiots who are starting to insist on going to morale first in the 3 capture points map is amazing. Lost 3 in a row because of this crap, 1 of them was a fricken 4v5 and noone got a single kill but me. Too many stupid people today.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44   #326
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saw my first bot in cb today (not using any skill, randomly moving or following others)

hope cb won't turn into a botfest
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47   #327
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wow, the number of idiots who are starting to insist on going to morale first in the 3 capture points map is amazing. Lost 3 in a row because of this crap, 1 of them was a fricken 4v5 and noone got a single kill but me. Too many stupid people today.
Seriously. The first two days of Costume Brawl were great. Now though it's just getting harder and harder to find people that understand the game. I mean, I have teams that yell at me for wanting Battlecry and Energy shrine because they tell me "THEY DO NOTHING!" I didn't play much today because I think I'm near my limit of Costume Brawl. Of course, when you do get a good team, it really cheers up your day and gives you hope that people are actually trying in the game.

I love having an arena where we are given our builds and have to make them work, but the shrines cause such a split of strategies in random teams. Oh well, I still love it; shame it's only once a year.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #328
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more liek syncbrawl 2008
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00   #329
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wow, the number of idiots who are starting to insist on going to morale first in the 3 capture points map is amazing. Lost 3 in a row because of this crap, 1 of them was a fricken 4v5 and noone got a single kill but me. Too many stupid people today.

Amen, I spent 5 matches out of a 10 match win streak trying to explain to a team why going to the middle was stupid. How we won that many, well 3 monks helps...
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03   #330
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more liek syncbrawl 2008
Yeah, I saw a few syncs today but thankfully all but 1 sucked hard. The problem is that the huge gamer points you get from high streaks tempts alot of people. When you can get 50 points a win on a title thats only obtainable a few weeks every year... well you can see the incentive.

Hopefully Anet has some way of arranging matches so that teams who are winning alot have a higher chance to be matched up with teams of similar victories, rather then just completely randomly. Probably not, though it would be a good idea.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08   #331
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Sync joining seems big buisiness. It's even worse than RA.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06   #332
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Syncing is understandable because of the extremely imbalanced nature of adding enough healing to your party, while other parties on average get 1 or less mo or rit.

Bad job Anet for never solving the syncing exploit, this title is going to seem like an exploiters one after this.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12   #333
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Hero Battles + RA, with everyone syncing.

This is the best thing ANet has ever put in the game!!!!1111!!!!
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 04:18 AM // 04:18   #334
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I only really find costume brawl fun when it's two sync'ed teams against another. When you put in a gametype which necessitates team work and co-ordination, randomising the teams is only going to lead to frustration and failure. I'd really wish there was a team version of this...
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 09:13 AM // 09:13   #335
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Had a 30 con run yesterday, before I had to go.

Just had some game with a monk that said: Ok we fail when we just loaded and then did nothing anymore, except killing himself. He told our team to resign, else he would report us and make sure we will get a 72h ban. He made us believe he knew some guy working at ANET that could do this. We, of course, told him to shut up and just won the game. He started to rage at us and left. After the game, we all got an PM from him. He said that he send his email and that we all would be banned in about 5 hours.

Not sure if I gotta feel sad or just laugh about it.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48   #336
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If Smiting is so good and underrated as you say, try and get a Smiter Flagrunner involved and then you're talking.
Sigh.

Here we go again. We talking about Costume Brawl and he's talkin about GvG


Tyla, your arguments look like this:

Me: A broom is better for dust cleaning than hammer
You: No man ffs! You're a noob. Broom can't smash stones and chestnuts! Hammer is obviously better!


But anyway, the discussion is pointless. I'm ok with both monks and Rts, I prefer monk, but whoever wants to play Rt sure no problem. I have great experiences with both in my team.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:14 AM // 11:14   #337
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Monks atm are manly x) - Kinda like em , the Kd's from Sig of Judgment, (AoE dmg), Bane Signet and Castigation etc makes damage after a while, having 4ppl balling around on sin and i just spam Smites and Sig is fun 2v4 and we wiped em all I kinda like the domage and kd from monks, make 2v2 much bettah.

Great; Ranger,Ele,Rt
Good;Dervish,Warrior,Sin, Monks(Fun bar to play but not really the best bar)
Other; Mesmer, Necro <-Good to some extend but usually <R, Para works but meh

But kinda nice u get, Balthzar Faction, Gamer Points and 1k each win! (5x ToT bags)

Would hope this had stayed bit more

Got a 2x Monk,1xRt, 1x Sin , 1x War - worked great until we met synced - 1x Derv, 2x Rt, 2x Ranger... It hate that 6/8 of the monk bar is 1sec cast one decent ranger an ur RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed :/
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 12:12 PM // 12:12   #338
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I can't believe the mods aren't doing anything...this is really getting outa hand.

You all got your own opinions and each of you are right and wrong. If this is such a low grade of PvP like you're all talking about there is no use in arguing over anything...
I agree, they should take their discussion to pm really, but then again they both have something to prove that they think the whole message board needs to see.

Like most of these stupid quote wars that happen

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Old Oct 30, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48   #339
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you need to quit QQ'ing.
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Quit sucking
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Quit spamming
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Quit QQ'ing over your poor skill level and learn how to play the game.
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More QQ'ing solved by simple presence of skill.
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Stop mindlessly running to Rangers when they use their millie shot.
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Quit spamming your attack skills against rangers.
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It's not THAT hard if you just use your head.
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Learn how to play with the skills you have instead of crying about it.
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I guess mods are not concerned about rude posts anymore. After such posts threads were getting closed in the past.


@OP Whichever character I play as in other pvp areas the most enjoyable part is winning with random guys against an organized party.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17   #340
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Most memorable moment during this event, I was playing as Zho my team was loosing 15-7, throwing themselves one by one at their mob, I capped all the outside shrines, we regrouped and won 20 to 19
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